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Post by hummin4454 on May 21, 2015 1:30:53 GMT
That song Hunter Hayes was doing in the video was so.......not too good. Heaven help us. Never thought HH would get desperate for radio play enough to compromise like that. I thought his first album was pretty good. Didn't get the second one.
Scotty's albums (all three of them) are three of my most enjoyed albums I have bought in several years. For music listening enjoyment for me, he is up there with some of the greatest stars from years gone by, country and otherwise....just a musical feast for the ears and the soul!!
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Post by mary_beaton on May 21, 2015 1:46:24 GMT
"so.......not too good" is the best descriptive review I've read in a long time!  |
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Post by Jonathan on May 21, 2015 3:10:01 GMT
Kellie Pickler is back! "Feeling Tonight" is her new single! play.spotify.com/album/5vAQw4Cd4i7LP8fKZ94i7r (You need to have a Spotify account to listen. I will post a Youtube link once that song is on there for those who don't have Spotify). This woman should be as big as Miranda and Carrie. For her not to be shows how dumb and sexist Country radio is. She's every bit as good as the great females of the 1990s! But this song is incredible and I hope radio does not hold her back yet again. She needs to be an Opry member too. |
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Post by hummin4454 on May 21, 2015 9:51:48 GMT
Kellie Pickler is back! "Feeling Tonight" is her new single! play.spotify.com/album/5vAQw4Cd4i7LP8fKZ94i7r (You need to have a Spotify account to listen. I will post a Youtube link once that song is on there for those who don't have Spotify). This woman should be as big as Miranda and Carrie. For her not to be shows how dumb and sexist Country radio is. She's every bit as good as the great females of the 1990s! But this song is incredible and I hope radio does not hold her back yet again. She needs to be an Opry member too. I have not heard the song yet, but I agree 100%, Jonathan. |
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Post by mary_beaton on May 21, 2015 21:47:57 GMT
Interesting article about bro country and how a single no one likes makes it #1 (link goes directly to article - no need to search for Windmills as tweet suggests) Grady Smith @gradywsmith 1h1 hour ago You MUST go read @windmillsmusic's mega-comment about how radio requests/research affects airplay. Search 'Windmills' www.savingcountrymusic.com/why-luke-bryans-kick-the-dust-up-is-more-than-just-a-bad-song … "Ironically, it doesn’t even matter how good the song is or not. Independent music fans love to say that mainstream listeners listen to what they’re told to listen to. But recently, this sinister notion has gone even another step further. Now mainstream fans are listening, even though they know they don’t like it. They’re not fans of songs or albums, but artists, and their loyalty is unwavering regardless of how bad the music is." And another article in TOC discusses how some bad reviews don't hurt and some good reviews don't help an artist, but that reviews are still useful promotional tools. Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? By Sterling Whitaker Read More: Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? | tasteofcountry.com/do-record-reviews-matter/?trackback=tsmclip |
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Post by tfortexas on May 21, 2015 23:19:53 GMT
Interesting article about bro country and how a single no one likes makes it #1 (link goes directly to article - no need to search for Windmills as tweet suggests) Grady Smith @gradywsmith 1h1 hour ago You MUST go read @windmillsmusic's mega-comment about how radio requests/research affects airplay. Search 'Windmills' www.savingcountrymusic.com/why-luke-bryans-kick-the-dust-up-is-more-than-just-a-bad-song … "Ironically, it doesn’t even matter how good the song is or not. Independent music fans love to say that mainstream listeners listen to what they’re told to listen to. But recently, this sinister notion has gone even another step further. Now mainstream fans are listening, even though they know they don’t like it. They’re not fans of songs or albums, but artists, and their loyalty is unwavering regardless of how bad the music is." And another article in TOC discusses how some bad reviews don't hurt and some good reviews don't help an artist, but that reviews are still useful promotional tools. Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? By Sterling Whitaker Read More: Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? | tasteofcountry.com/do-record-reviews-matter/?trackback=tsmclipThis is amazing! Just a bunch of sheep with no brains, eh. This concept could have bad ramification for a lot of thing other than music. Politics among them. |
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Post by ptebwwong on May 21, 2015 23:27:36 GMT
Interesting article about bro country and how a single no one likes makes it #1 (link goes directly to article - no need to search for Windmills as tweet suggests) Grady Smith @gradywsmith 1h1 hour ago You MUST go read @windmillsmusic's mega-comment about how radio requests/research affects airplay. Search 'Windmills' www.savingcountrymusic.com/why-luke-bryans-kick-the-dust-up-is-more-than-just-a-bad-song … "Ironically, it doesn’t even matter how good the song is or not. Independent music fans love to say that mainstream listeners listen to what they’re told to listen to. But recently, this sinister notion has gone even another step further. Now mainstream fans are listening, even though they know they don’t like it. They’re not fans of songs or albums, but artists, and their loyalty is unwavering regardless of how bad the music is." And another article in TOC discusses how some bad reviews don't hurt and some good reviews don't help an artist, but that reviews are still useful promotional tools. Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? By Sterling Whitaker Read More: Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? | tasteofcountry.com/do-record-reviews-matter/?trackback=tsmclipIMO this is what happened in pop music years ago. Radio plays the popular artists. It doesn't matter how good or bad the song is. All they care about is these are the artists that are attracting the most attention through the media, fans, etc. Since country has become more popular, I think this is becoming more and more true. Radio plays FGL, Luke, Blake, etc. because those are the popular country artists and they could care less that their music isn't good. |
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Post by purplepirate91 on May 21, 2015 23:59:29 GMT
Kellie Pickler is back! "Feeling Tonight" is her new single! play.spotify.com/album/5vAQw4Cd4i7LP8fKZ94i7r (You need to have a Spotify account to listen. I will post a Youtube link once that song is on there for those who don't have Spotify). This woman should be as big as Miranda and Carrie. For her not to be shows how dumb and sexist Country radio is. She's every bit as good as the great females of the 1990s! But this song is incredible and I hope radio does not hold her back yet again. She needs to be an Opry member too. I really enjoy Kellie's music. Looking forward to hearing her new single! |
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Post by hummin4454 on May 22, 2015 1:18:00 GMT
Interesting article about bro country and how a single no one likes makes it #1 (link goes directly to article - no need to search for Windmills as tweet suggests) Grady Smith @gradywsmith 1h1 hour ago You MUST go read @windmillsmusic's mega-comment about how radio requests/research affects airplay. Search 'Windmills' www.savingcountrymusic.com/why-luke-bryans-kick-the-dust-up-is-more-than-just-a-bad-song … "Ironically, it doesn’t even matter how good the song is or not. Independent music fans love to say that mainstream listeners listen to what they’re told to listen to. But recently, this sinister notion has gone even another step further. Now mainstream fans are listening, even though they know they don’t like it. They’re not fans of songs or albums, but artists, and their loyalty is unwavering regardless of how bad the music is." And another article in TOC discusses how some bad reviews don't hurt and some good reviews don't help an artist, but that reviews are still useful promotional tools. Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? By Sterling Whitaker Read More: Do Record Reviews Matter in the Age of Social Media? | tasteofcountry.com/do-record-reviews-matter/?trackback=tsmclip |
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Post by hummin4454 on May 22, 2015 1:46:15 GMT
I read that article earlier today posted by Windmills. I have been suspicious about that for some time. It seems that certain radio favorites get to cut to the front of the line each and every time they send a song to radio. Some of y'all members here probably take those radio polls that get sent to us via our email. I vote for and against all those songs and comment about what I think week after week. It seems I am wasting my time. I love certain artists, too, and I am very loyal, but I will not spend money on a bad song or a mediocre album no matter who the artist is who is putting it out. Back when I was young I would buy an entire LP just for one song, but most of the time the whole thing was good. These days all too often, especially in the country genre, not so much.
Looking at the Billboard publication for this week, I noticed the songs rated highest on the streaming chart are mostly "bro" variety, which is probably one of the criterion for deciding who gets front-of-the-line treatment at country radio. People just aren't into quality so much anymore, I guess.
Good thing Scotty always puts out superior music that I can enjoy all year long. I can't wait for the new album, but I have 3 to keep me going until then, and I still enjoy them just as much now as I did when I heard them for the very first time.
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Post by Jonathan on May 22, 2015 3:26:45 GMT
That song Hunter Hayes was doing in the video was so.......not too good. Heaven help us. Never thought HH would get desperate for radio play enough to compromise like that. I thought his first album was pretty good. Didn't get the second one. Scotty's albums (all three of them) are three of my most enjoyed albums I have bought in several years. For music listening enjoyment for me, he is up there with some of the greatest stars from years gone by, country and otherwise....just a musical feast for the ears and the soul!! Here is the studio version if you're interested. It's a Pop song and I could see it being a hit remixed over there. Saying that it should be a Country hit. But I think it's his least lyrical song given his previous standards. theboot.com/hunter-hayes-21-song/ |
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Post by hummin4454 on May 22, 2015 11:22:16 GMT
That song Hunter Hayes was doing in the video was so.......not too good. Heaven help us. Never thought HH would get desperate for radio play enough to compromise like that. I thought his first album was pretty good. Didn't get the second one. Scotty's albums (all three of them) are three of my most enjoyed albums I have bought in several years. For music listening enjoyment for me, he is up there with some of the greatest stars from years gone by, country and otherwise....just a musical feast for the ears and the soul!! Here is the studio version if you're interested. It's a Pop song and I could see it being a hit remixed over there. Saying that it should be a Country hit. But I think it's his least lyrical song given his previous standards. theboot.com/hunter-hayes-21-song/Radio will likely spin this one up, it is upbeat in style and definitely Pop. Reminds me of Dan + Shay. The recorded version sounds a lot better than the posted video, which sometimes don't have the sound quality to represent the song well. Thanks, Jonathan. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 17:06:19 GMT
Here is the studio version if you're interested. It's a Pop song and I could see it being a hit remixed over there. Saying that it should be a Country hit. But I think it's his least lyrical song given his previous standards. theboot.com/hunter-hayes-21-song/Radio will likely spin this one up, it is upbeat in style and definitely Pop. Reminds me of Dan + Shay. The recorded version sounds a lot better than the posted video, which sometimes don't have the sound quality to represent the song well. Thanks, Jonathan. I agree that it's pop. It doesn't appeal to me but I think radio and the HH fans will support it.Most of the reviews that I've read have been positive...smh I had hoped that bro country was on the way out but I'm beginning to think that it's going to be around for awhile. I just hope that radio is receptive to Scotty's new single especially if it's more traditional. |
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Post by lizziemat on May 22, 2015 21:45:44 GMT
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Post by hummin4454 on May 22, 2015 23:56:27 GMT
Oh yes, the times are changing. Good for Hunter that he can find fans and success this way. He is very likable and has a lot of appeal with young fans. This is the wave of the very near future in music. |
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Post by Jonathan on May 23, 2015 0:14:32 GMT
There are very few artists who can move more than 500K albums anymore, even more than 300K. In all genres of music. There are a few stand outs like Taylor and One Direction, but for the most part Platinum albums will be a thing of the past. Recorded music started with 45s, then when LPs were created is when the album took off and was the dominant force until this decade. With each year passing, full albums are selling less and less. Dare I say that CAD may be Scotty's only Platinum album. Just because the album era is close to being over and his career is just beginning. Who knows where recorded music will head as we go into the next decade, the 20's all over again. I have no doubt that Scotty will be one of the leading artists of the 2020s but albums may be extinct by then. We'll just have to hang on for the ride and see where we're taken on how will buy our music in the future and what form it will be in.
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Post by hummin4454 on May 23, 2015 2:33:01 GMT
There are very few artists who can move more than 500K albums anymore, even more than 300K. In all genres of music. There are a few stand outs like Taylor and One Direction, but for the most part Platinum albums will be a thing of the past. Recorded music started with 45s, then when LPs were created is when the album took off and was the dominant force until this decade. With each year passing, full albums are selling less and less. Dare I say that CAD may be Scotty's only Platinum album. Just because the album era is close to being over and his career is just beginning. Who knows where recorded music will head as we go into the next decade, the 20's all over again. I have no doubt that Scotty will be one of the leading artists of the 2020s but albums may be extinct by then. We'll just have to hang on for the ride and see where we're taken on how will buy our music in the future and what form it will be in. I think you are absolutely right! I am going to have to break down one of these days and subscribe to the streaming service that pays artists, writers and musicians the highest percentage for their art/work. |
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Post by ptebwwong on May 23, 2015 2:56:22 GMT
There are very few artists who can move more than 500K albums anymore, even more than 300K. In all genres of music. There are a few stand outs like Taylor and One Direction, but for the most part Platinum albums will be a thing of the past. Recorded music started with 45s, then when LPs were created is when the album took off and was the dominant force until this decade. With each year passing, full albums are selling less and less. Dare I say that CAD may be Scotty's only Platinum album. Just because the album era is close to being over and his career is just beginning. Who knows where recorded music will head as we go into the next decade, the 20's all over again. I have no doubt that Scotty will be one of the leading artists of the 2020s but albums may be extinct by then. We'll just have to hang on for the ride and see where we're taken on how will buy our music in the future and what form it will be in. I think you are absolutely right! I am going to have to break down one of these days and subscribe to the streaming service that pays artists, writers and musicians the highest percentage for their art/work. Many of these streaming services such as Spotify, Pandora, etc. have a free version available. The problem is there are a lot of ads in the free versions and some options can't be used. Streaming is now counted towards sales. There are some weeks that a #1 album was due to streaming. If you had based it on just sales, the artist wouldn't have a #1. Streaming is very important and it could be something we could try to do when Scotty's album comes out to increase his sales. |
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Post by hummin4454 on May 23, 2015 13:37:40 GMT
I think you are absolutely right! I am going to have to break down one of these days and subscribe to the streaming service that pays artists, writers and musicians the highest percentage for their art/work. Many of these streaming services such as Spotify, Pandora, etc. have a free version available. The problem is there are a lot of ads in the free versions and some options can't be used. Streaming is now counted towards sales. There are some weeks that a #1 album was due to streaming. If you had based it on just sales, the artist wouldn't have a #1. Streaming is very important and it could be something we could try to do when Scotty's album comes out to increase his sales. I hate the ads. I would gladly pay the fee, which I am sure is fairly reasonable, to stream the music I want to enjoy. My biggest concern with streaming is that I choose the service that pays all the people who are trying to make a living actually creating and performing the music itself and not having the streaming service providers taking most of the money and throwing "chump change" to the artists/musicians, who are actually creating it in the first place. Got some research to do, obviously. |
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Post by ann62 on May 23, 2015 14:39:49 GMT
So I have a question concerning artists who take the digital only route, when it comes to awards, will only the singles be up for say single of the year, song of the year awards, and will EPs be considered albums and can be up for album of the year awards?
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Post by maryhayden on May 23, 2015 16:13:06 GMT
Once I read one article I went searching for another but didn't find it. I did come across a discussion about K Musgraves. This is what one poster added in the discussion and I have to agree:
"Mercury’s biggest issue is they tend to release singles, then the video follows months later. You HAVE to release a single, then a week later (AT MOST) release the video. The video really does help sales, and the fact that they will be releasing the video “soon” is the dumbest thing in the world."
I have always felt it is too long between Scotty's single release and his video.
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Post by Jonathan on May 23, 2015 16:28:21 GMT
Once I read one article I went searching for another but didn't find it. I did come across a discussion about K Musgraves. This is what one poster added in the discussion and I have to agree: "Mercury’s biggest issue is they tend to release singles, then the video follows months later. You HAVE to release a single, then a week later (AT MOST) release the video. The video really does help sales, and the fact that they will be releasing the video “soon” is the dumbest thing in the world." I have always felt it is too long between Scotty's single release and his video. I talked about this back on IDF. Mercury has never been known to support it's artists right. They were even sinking Shania's career by insisting she didn't record her own material until Mutt Lange stepped in and forced them somehow to record Shania's songs and the rest is history. They lost some of the biggest artists to other labels like George Jones, Toby Keith and Reba. None of their artists (Other than Shania) have found long term success without leaving them for another label at some point. Once Scotty's deal is up I believe he will do the same unless they start treating his promotion with common sense, which given their history, doesn't earn a lot of trust. |
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Post by hummin4454 on May 23, 2015 17:46:46 GMT
Once I read one article I went searching for another but didn't find it. I did come across a discussion about K Musgraves. This is what one poster added in the discussion and I have to agree: "Mercury’s biggest issue is they tend to release singles, then the video follows months later. You HAVE to release a single, then a week later (AT MOST) release the video. The video really does help sales, and the fact that they will be releasing the video “soon” is the dumbest thing in the world." I have always felt it is too long between Scotty's single release and his video. I absolutely agree! Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean as well as other big stars have their videos ready to go right around the same time as the launch of their song to radio. My decision about whether I like or love a song is almost immediate with one or two listens, but a well done video can sway my decision a little. I don't want to stir things up too much here but, case in point is Sam Hunt. I am NOT a fan of his by any stretch and never will be, I believe he is kind of "crashing" the country format with his persona, musical style, hair style, etc., but the video he did for "Take Your Time" caught my attention because it was so poignant and well done. It did sway my opinion of the song a little. I still will not buy anything by him, but that does show the impact that a good and timely video can have on a song. Maybe, in the case of Mercury, the label is worried about the length of time it'll take to get a song up the chart and that a video a couple of months down the road will give it a needed boost, or they just don't want to spend the money on a video at all if the song bombs early on. |
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Post by vamp111 on May 26, 2015 0:41:56 GMT
I'm glad to see somebody like Easton Corbin with a top 10 single-currently #6 on mediabase and rising. He is one of my favorite "newer" artists.
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Post by hummin4454 on May 26, 2015 2:00:57 GMT
I'm glad to see somebody like Easton Corbin with a top 10 single-currently #6 on mediabase and rising. He is one of my favorite "newer" artists. I like him, too. He has a really nice singing voice. I really love his song "A Little More Country Than That". His main problem is he can't sing what he is best suited for because he is a little too country sounding for country radio. It's a shame. He should be further along in his career than he is. I don't love his latest song (a few of the lyrics in it just don't suit me -- I am kind of nit-picky that way), but I am so glad to see him able to get that far up the chart! Good for him!! |
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Post by ptebwwong on May 27, 2015 2:36:36 GMT
We have talked a lot about Hunter's new single. According to tonight's Billboard Update, it's already debuted at #32 on the Country Airplay charts. I hate that some artists have to struggle on the charts while others have amazing starts.
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Post by lizziemat on May 27, 2015 3:32:21 GMT
We have talked a lot about Hunter's new single. According to tonight's Billboard Update, it's already debuted at #32 on the Country Airplay charts. I hate that some artists have to struggle on the charts while others have amazing starts. That debut was due largely to HH iheart spin deal playing his song every hour and releasing to spotify early for streaming.....I wonder how much the label pays for those spin deals.... |
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Post by tfortexas on May 27, 2015 3:57:59 GMT
We have talked a lot about Hunter's new single. According to tonight's Billboard Update, it's already debuted at #32 on the Country Airplay charts. I hate that some artists have to struggle on the charts while others have amazing starts. That debut was due largely to HH iheart spin deal playing his song every hour and releasing to spotify early for streaming.....I wonder how much the label pays for those spin deals.... I don't know but if the song has no "merit" it should fall quickly when the paid support stops. |
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Post by ptebwwong on May 27, 2015 4:10:24 GMT
We have talked a lot about Hunter's new single. According to tonight's Billboard Update, it's already debuted at #32 on the Country Airplay charts. I hate that some artists have to struggle on the charts while others have amazing starts. That debut was due largely to HH iheart spin deal playing his song every hour and releasing to spotify early for streaming.....I wonder how much the label pays for those spin deals.... I'm not sure how much it is for the spin deals. All I remember is seeing research that it now costs a label $1 million for a hit song for an artist. This includes getting songwriters, marketing & promotion, pushing it to radio, etc. |
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Post by tfortexas on May 27, 2015 4:34:21 GMT
That debut was due largely to HH iheart spin deal playing his song every hour and releasing to spotify early for streaming.....I wonder how much the label pays for those spin deals.... I'm not sure how much it is for the spin deals. All I remember is seeing research that it now costs a label $1 million for a hit song for an artist. This includes getting songwriters, marketing & promotion, pushing it to radio, etc. That would be hard to recoup for the labels especially with mostly digital sales. |
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